Final Edit huh? Here comes another. They stepped back from doing real name in forums. As linked by Penny Arcade, here. But, 3rd paragraph clearly shoes that this is not the last of the shenanigans coming from RealID and Battle.net. Keep your ear to the ground kiddies. For now, they, listened...
I know, that when it comes to the "blogosphere" I am a small voice in a loud din. I know, that what I say here and now will not affect many people. But because of what Blizzard/Activision has decided about Real ID, I am making this my last post about World of Warcraft. I will not be tagging this post, and I will be deleting previous posts.
This is a small protest, I know, but I hope that others follow suit somehow.
Edit: Thank you Larisa for the comment, I appreciate it. Thank you Tobold for the Link, I appreciate the support. I'm glad that both your blogs touch on things deeper than just WoW news this/that. Which will keep me coming back for more. Thank you both again.
Looking at what is coming with Real ID, I'm going to have to keep an ear to the ground, but from my rough figures of possible people who will actually quit WoW over this, is probably about a penny to every $10 that Blizzard/Activision makes, if that.
In the end, it means that me and two of my best friends are never playing WoW again. I know this for sure. If 3 are never going back, that probably means more will follow suit.
I will be updating this post as things come up, I figure it best to keep everything together, so this will see many edits in the future.
Edit: More comments, thanks guys. I was not aware that I had been linked to by Massively.com (Daily Grind). Funny, getting a major link up like that, as I'm swearing off WoW, I feel real ironic and such.
I'm reading reports that are flip-flopping whether Blizzard themselves are going to be posting their real names or not (if you aren't going to do it, then why should we? comes to mind). Makes you wonder how long they actually thought about this.
Also the discussion over at the Infamous Inn is incredible right now.
Also found this.
Edit: Some of you may be choosing to quit WoW. Reading this, may help you understand it when you suddenly start playing it again later. If you don't feel like reading it, just know this suggestion: If you don't want to start playing again, the best thing to do, is to not play it when you get the itch for it.
Edit: I realize most people won't quit WoW over RealID. Tobold and Gevlon both have excellent guides to disabling RealID. This still won't prevent your name from showing up in forums (more than likely the parent's name will show up for the kids account), and from everything I've read, SC2 and D3 will allow you to play as a screen name instead of having to integrate with Facebook.
Here's the deal though, for those who don't have a problem, or for those already on facebook. You install the game, and click a button. The game "facebook connects" and finds people you are friends with on facebook who also pressed the same button. This is very similar to all the facebook games that spam your wall, so those on facebook will understand what is going on here.
For those already on Facebook, who's friend's list is full of acquaintances, this is a perfectly logical concept. For me, I only have 3 acquaintances on my facebook. Everyone else I know personally.
I can see how they thought that people would like these features, but I think they should have worked harder on making RealID its own thing, with tiered privacy settings, so that it would be a REAL social networking tool, and had the facebook integration as an "add-on". Instead, RealID is the most open social platform I have ever seen, and it is riding piggyback on Facebook.
Tobold made an excellent suggestion on his blog. He said, and I paraphrase, Quit WoW, cancel your subscription, state the reason as RealID, and then don't play for a couple of months and enjoy the sun. You can come back later and reactivate your account with no real concern for having lost anything.
Try it, you might find that you don't even want to come back, or you might return and enjoy the game more. Eitherway, if (and this is a dream I know) 6 million people stopped playing WoW for two months, Blizzard/Activision would get a hint that something is wrong with their idea.
Edit:RealID now mandatory for in-game chat. (Dwism.com)
It is not even out yet, and the effect is spreading. If you are a parent, I imagine that your name will appear instead of your child's name. But for the "smart" adults who turned off RealID on their accounts, their own name will show up, since they are the "parents". There seems to be no chance of playing SC2 or D3 without revealing your real name then....
Edit: First of all, Hatch has a wonderful write-up about this whole thing.
Secondly from Saithir's pointing out: All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name.
and later
You will be able to set up Parental Controls to disallow a minor from posting.
RealID will prevent the minor from posting, which means they will get a different message than what people who have RealID active.
@Mike: I haven't been able to officially find that quote, and Dwism is saying, and now for the real post, so that might be fake. I was really tired when I made that link. I'll be striking that out until I can find the quote.
Another interesting link from Broken Toys, collects many good quotes.
Also, Wallstreet Journal.
Finally, South Korean Law responsible?
Edit: Thanks to Copra for the link here.
Edit:
Edit: First of all, Hatch has a wonderful write-up about this whole thing.
Secondly from Saithir's pointing out: All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name.
and later
You will be able to set up Parental Controls to disallow a minor from posting.
RealID will prevent the minor from posting, which means they will get a different message than what people who have RealID active.
@Mike: I haven't been able to officially find that quote, and Dwism is saying, and now for the real post, so that might be fake. I was really tired when I made that link. I'll be striking that out until I can find the quote.
Another interesting link from Broken Toys, collects many good quotes.
Also, Wallstreet Journal.
Edit: Thanks to Copra for the link here.
Every protest counts. However small.
ReplyDeleteI haven't really decided yet. But if I'll decide quit this year, this will most definitely be the reason I state for it.
/hugs and thanks for this time and for sticking up for your beliefs.
You have every right to protest, however what this provides is a means to remove half the negative content on the WOW forums. It is again entirely your right but to hold this as your end all reason to leave the game offers only really a shell to personal reasons that personally I hope you re-consider. You contribute to our community and we would be remiss to lose someone based upon an idea that will become active in a few months that we have not even see the true colors of.
ReplyDelete@Ezra: Thank you for your comment.
ReplyDeleteI was ready to quit Facebook over a similar thing. I really have no need for RL social networking. People who know me, know me by my pseudonym. Even my best friends. Even if on this very blog, you can easily discover my real name, that fact is not as important to me, as being known as Pangoria.
I couldn't even change my name on battle.net. I couldn't change my real name (which was used for mailing purposes in case I bought something from the Blizzard store) to the name I'd like to be known as, since it IS what I'm known as.
If I am ever to play a Blizzard game, it would have to be under those conditions. As of right now, I'm not looking at playing a Blizzard game for quite awhile if ever.
Like I said before, it is a small protest on a spec of a blog, from someone who amounts to be less than a penny per $10000 that Blizzard makes from WoW per month. I doubt that this will change anything, or anyone's opinion.
I know I'm not tying myself to a tree here, but what they are doing, claiming that Real ID is optional, while forcing its use, is deplorable. I wouldn't even be protesting this if they had simply allowed for the creation of a pseudonym, or to have the ability for me to change my battle.net account name to something else, and I definitely wouldn't be doing this if they had simply said, from the beginning, we are going to force you to use your real name with RealID, if you don't want it, here's how to opt out of ever posting in forums, and only play online with a screen name.
Hey! I'm with you on this. Not playing WoW at the moment but I'm looking to Starcraft 2 wich will use the same features and this is making me reconsider wether or not I'll be sticking to the single player campaign. At the very least I won't be posting on the forums... ever.
ReplyDeleteSo you might be a small voice but we all heard you and for myself I support you!
@Ezra
ReplyDeleteEven if this move removed 70% ... 80% ... 90% of the negative content on the official WoW forums those forums would *still* be a useless pile of crap. The only way to make the forums useful would be to have real moderation. Which should tell you that that is not the reason Blizzard is making this move.
Personally I won't be quitting WoW over this. I never used the forums anyway (except for reading patch notes) and I disabled RealID on my account. But it's a seriously misguided move on Blizzards part.
Oh and of course all the sane people will be leaving the WoW forums anyway.
ReplyDeleteYou're not that small a voice, you're linked to from massively.com.
ReplyDeleteNever played WoW myself, but I hope this is not a trend that other games will adopt as it's really horrendous.
It would have been so easy to connect the RealID to your forum-handle, and so your real name would be possible for security officer to get ahold of, but only under special circumstances. This opens for the possibility to sue if they use this for the wrong reasons, but at the same time it's possible to close users that "troll" the forums.
This is the first I've heard of it but if that in-game chat channel change is real* then I will quit. I will quit and I will delete my characters.
ReplyDelete* I'm at work so I can't check the forums to verify dwism's quote (blogspot I can access, forums.worldofwarcraft.com? no chance)
Just a thing - you wrote "disabling RealID. This still won't prevent your name from showing up in forums (more than likely the parent's name will show up for the kids account)".
ReplyDeleteHowever, read the last post here - http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25712374700/battle-net-update-upcoming-changes-to-forums/ - if I'm reading it right, the parental controls are supposed to disable posting on forums at all, not under your parent's name.
From reading the forum posts, Blizzard/Activision really wants us to voice our concerns. If they are going to progress with this regardless of our feelings, then the only reason to voice concerns is to get people to proceed past the anger portion of dealing with change.
ReplyDeleteIt is a crowd control effort, and I believe it is working.
Furthermore, the Blue posts themselves seem to indicate that the bigger issue here is having players establish real social connections. In other words, the future of RealID is socializing with people you just met, with your real name, to keep you in the game.
With the launch of the new Battle.net, it’s important to us to create a new and different kind of online gaming environment -- one that’s highly social, and which provides an ideal place for gamers to form long-lasting, meaningful relationships. All of our design decisions surrounding Real ID -- including these forum changes -- have been made with this goal in mind.
That's from the first post here:
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
This might be just because of me being up very late at night again, but... That quote sounds soooo like a blurb from some weird kind of a dating site.
ReplyDelete"Make long-lasting, meaningful relationships and find your true love while slaying dragons, demons and evil wizards! Sign up now, only 12.99 per month."
Brrr, scary. Maybe I'd better just go to sleep and hope not to have nightmares about it. ;)
I'll read it again when I wake up fully, it's a good point, which has been kind of buried under all of the privacy issues.